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Vox day nominations12/25/2023 The problem with the Miller test and “obscenity laws” in general is that they’re subjective as all hell. Whether the work, taken as a whole, lacks serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.” Whether the work depicts or describes, in a patently offensive way, sexual conduct or excretory functions specifically defined by applicable state law, “Whether “the average person, applying contemporary community standards”, would find that the work, taken as a whole, appeals to the prurient interest, It is clearly referring to sketches and sculptures of an actual person, an actual minor. This bit makes no mention of drawings of fictional characters, it only uses minor and as said above a fictional character cannot be considered a person and thus cannot be considered a minor. “Prohibits drawings, sculptures, and pictures of such drawings and sculptures depicting minors in actions or situations that meet the Miller test of being obscene, OR are engaged in sex acts that are deemed to meet the same obscene condition.” This means a fictional character cannot be considered a minor. In law, a minor is a person under a certain age.Ī fictional character cannot be considered a person due to it being fictional, fictional characters do not have a real age for the same reason. Keywords in this bit are virtually indistinguishable and minor.įictional characters in cartoon drawings are very clearly distinguishable from that of a person, a minor, engaging in sexually explicit conduct. “Prohibits computer-generated child pornography when “(B) such visual depiction is a computer image or computer-generated image that is, or appears virtually indistinguishable from that of a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct” (as amended by 1466A for Section 2256(8)(B) of title 18, United States Code)” (Please forgive me the disposable email and obvious pseudonym, but given the subject, what I’m saying, and the particular group of people you’re dealing with here, holy shit, dude, do I not want anything that can lead back to me on this particular comment thread.) Since you’re calling him a “child pornographer,” do you believe this “kukuruyo” person (and thus any other artist doing the exact same thing) should be arrested, serve jail time, and be registered as a sex offender in the same way that someone producing sexual photographs of a real human child should?ĭoes Mr Moore’s “Lost Girls” make “child pornographers” of him and Melinda Gebbie, too? Though the world would be better off without any of the stuff in it, sexually explicit drawn images of underage people aren’t, I think, quite the same thing as sexually explicit photographs of underage people, the biggest obvious difference being that in only one of those two categories is a real human child directly affected in any meaningful way. #SJW logic: Pedophil Sandifer complains that #RabidPuppies are “bullying fucks” while declaring that they are outnumbered “3,800 to 200”.Īnd has been vocal in accusing sci-fi fandom of harboring pedophiles, including slating two works with arguments to this effect in Best Related Work. Under US law, this would seem to legally be child pornography.Īlthough the drawing post-dates Day’s placement of the artist on his slate, the hypocrisy of Vox Day endorsing the work of a child pornographer is particularly glaring given that he continues to throw childish insults like this around: Marvel – whose comic won last year’s Hugo for Best Graphic Story – is a sixteen-year-old girl in the comics. Marvel in which her genitalia is clearly visible and provocatively displayed. It was brought to my attention today that “kukuruyo,” one of the artists that Vox Day put on the Rabid Puppies slate in Best Fan Artist and that made it onto the Hugo Ballot recently posted to his blog a commissioned drawing of comic book character Ms. For obvious reasons, I will not be providing links here, however I am happy to provide them privately to anyone with a legitimate interest in the information, including law enforcement.
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